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  • #179855

    Channel99
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    “As of this afternoon, WYCN-CD started broadcasting on WGBX-TV’s subchannel, and maps to PSIP 15.1 as WYCN-CD (and in full 1080p, not 720p as expected) as NBC Boston from WBTS-LP, and PSIP 15.2 is Cozi TV at 480p, something else I was not expecting. In addition, WBTS-LP is still showing up as PSIP 60.5 as NBC Boston.”

    Video looks good.  WGBX cut the bandwidth of Kids and Create somewhat, though.

    Right now, until 60-5 goes away – NBC/Boston is on four over the air channels on four signals.  All should be receivable in areas part way between Needham and NH: 8-1, 15-1, 60-2, and 60-5.

    60-5 will probably go away soon, and WMFP’s signal, also.

     

    #179856

    Channel99
    Participant

    “Isn’t Telemundo’s WNEU also going to be on a 15-point something subchannel??”

    Maybe, when the WNEU signal is moved from NH to Needham.  They can’t fit much more onto WGBX, though – WGBX and NBC/Boston are both full HD 1080i and 3 more subchannels are in 480p – Create, PBS Kids, and Cozi.

    #179859

    Darryl
    Participant

    “As of this afternoon, WYCN-CD started broadcasting on WGBX-TV’s subchannel, and maps to PSIP 15.1 as WYCN-CD (and in full 1080p, not 720p as expected) as NBC Boston from WBTS-LP, and PSIP 15.2 is Cozi TV at 480p, something else I was not expecting. In addition, WBTS-LP is still showing up as PSIP 60.5 as NBC Boston.” Video looks good. WGBX cut the bandwidth of Kids and Create somewhat, though. Right now, until 60-5 goes away – NBC/Boston is on four over the air channels on four signals. All should be receivable in areas part way between Needham and NH: 8-1, 15-1, 60-2, and 60-5. 60-5 will probably go away soon, and WMFP’s signal, also.

    This makes 8.1 rather redundant as well though they may keep that signal to get better Telemundo coverage to the south.
    #179871

    Joseph_Gallant

    I suspect that WMFP-62 (and the WBTS-60.5 subchannel piggybacked on it) will soon be going away.

    Had anyone heard of a firm date for that to occur??

    #179874

    Channel99
    Participant

    “I suspect that WMFP-62 (and the WBTS-60.5 subchannel piggybacked on it) will soon be going away.

    Had anyone heard of a firm date for that to occur??”

    Originally it was to be Jan 23, however they had requested a 3 month extension in October.  The attachment on the FCC site is corrupted, so the reason given cannot be seen.  If it was only to allow NBC/Boston on 60-5 to remain until the WYCN signal move, then they could shut down soon.  If it was due to equipment or other delays in setting up the WWDP sharing, it could be 3 months from now.

    #180050

    kenrichards71
    Participant

    I noticed WCYN 15 over the weekend in Rhode Island the signal is equal if not better than cbs affiliate in Providence WPRI.

    The signal for WYCN.. Bombs in in the Warwick area. I wonder what WJAR is going to do? Two NBC affiliates covering the same area both calling themselves NBC10.

    WJAR may have to drop the 10 and call themselves “NBC PROVIDENCE”.

    Ouch

    #180052

    People paranoid about trivia — what a refreshing thought!

    WJAR has nothing to worry about.

    #180060

    kenrichards71
    Participant

    People paranoid about trivia — what a refreshing thought! WJAR has nothing to worry about.

    Maybe not but both calling themselves “10” maybe confusing.
    As for the Cozi Simulcast.I can see that showing up in ratings.
    #180077

    Channel99
    Participant

    NBC made some smart moves in getting on the air in Boston, such as buying WYCN-CD and sharing it on WGBX. The essentially random choice of channel 10 was not one of the smart moves. Probably that was decided in New York (or Philly) by people who had no idea of the huge overlap of the Boston and Providence markets, or the long association of channel number 10 in both markets with NBC in Providence. NBC/Boston is really just giving free advertising to WJAR. Not too bad, since it is an NBC affiliate.

    #180115

    kenrichards71
    Participant

    NBC made some smart moves in getting on the air in Boston, such as buying WYCN-CD and sharing it on WGBX. The essentially random choice of channel 10 was not one of the smart moves. Probably that was decided in New York (or Philly) by people who had no idea of the huge overlap of the Boston and Providence markets, or the long association of channel number 10 in both markets with NBC in Providence. NBC/Boston is really just giving free advertising to WJAR. Not too bad, since it is an NBC affiliate.

    I thought of that too. WJAR would get the credit with confusion I think.I’m curious to see how Cozi shows up in numbers.
    #180148

    More fantasies from fanboys who don’t look at reality.

    NBC made some smart moves in getting on the air in Boston, such as buying WYCN-CD and sharing it on WGBX.

    Made necessary by the spectrum auction and the repack of the TV broadcast band.

    The essentially random choice of channel 10 was not one of the smart moves.

    NBC Boston wanted a low channel number on cable/satellite and negotiated for it. Now the station’s about to get its biggest audiences yet with a Super Bowl featuring the New England Patriots. After that there’ll be the Winter Olympics occupying most of February.

    … people who had no idea of the huge overlap of the Boston and Providence markets, or the long association of channel number 10 in both markets with NBC in Providence.

    The only people who are hot and bothered by a channel number are those who think everything should be done like it was 50 years ago.

    #180154

    Paul Anderson
    Participant

    More fantasies from fanboys who don’t look at reality. NBC made some smart moves in getting on the air in Boston, such as buying WYCN-CD and sharing it on WGBX. Made necessary by the spectrum auction and the repack of the TV broadcast band. The essentially random choice of channel 10 was not one of the smart moves. NBC Boston wanted a low channel number on cable/satellite and negotiated for it. Now the station’s about to get its biggest audiences yet with a Super Bowl featuring the New England Patriots. After that there’ll be the Winter Olympics occupying most of February. … people who had no idea of the huge overlap of the Boston and Providence markets, or the long association of channel number 10 in both markets with NBC in Providence. The only people who are hot and bothered by a channel number are those who think everything should be done like it was 50 years ago.

    No, it is not just fanboys who notice the problem with naming two different stations in the same general area the SAME NAME! “NBC 10 Boston” and “NBC 10”. The average person, with no knowledge of markets or virtual channel numbers, now sees two stations on their TV with “NBC 10” on them. That has to be confusing, or at the least, brings additional audience to WJAR looking for Pete Bouchard with the weather when he’s on the “other” NBC 10.

    It turns out to be a dumb move, not only because there are now two “NBC 10” stations, but because not every cable company shows them on channel 10. They should have picked channel 8 in the first place, being close to the former home of NBC on channel 7, they picked 8 as the virtual channel for their first Boston station, and there’s no overlap between another station with the same channel number or name.

    #180167

    Channel99
    Participant

    More fantasies from fanboys who don’t look at reality.

    NBC made some smart moves in getting on the air in Boston, such as buying WYCN-CD and sharing it on WGBX.

    Made necessary by the spectrum auction and the repack of the TV broadcast band.

    No – it wasn’t made necessary – they could have just paid the big price needed to buy WMFP, or another station, and not sold off the license in the auction.  The smart move was doing it this cheaply using WYCN.

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    … people who had no idea of the huge overlap of the Boston and Providence markets, or the long association of channel number 10 in both markets with NBC in Providence.

    The only people who are hot and bothered by a channel number are those who think everything should be done like it was 50 years ago.

     

    Nonsense – WJAR heavily promotes the number 10  – it is there with the peacock on everything – “NBC10”.  So now there is also an “NBC10” with a little tiny “Boston” on it.  Sure they wanted a low number but could have used 3, 8, 13, or 15.  Then there are the cord-cutters – who may never heard of using an antenna until recently.  If watching on NBC / Boston 8-1, 15-1, 60-2, etc. they hear every promo telling them to tune to channel 10, and next time up on WJAR.

     

     

    #180187

    So now there is also an “NBC10” with a little tiny “Boston” on it.  Sure they wanted a low number but could have used 3, 8, 13, or 15.

    NBC Boston negotiated for the 10 position on cable/satellite late in 2016. That was 15 to 18 months ago. See this FAQ from the Massachusetts state consumer affairs department:

    http://www.mass.gov/ocabr/government/oca-agencies/dtc-lp/nbc-boston-channel-realignment-information.html

    You should have complained back then. Instead you wait until NBC prepares to televise a Super Bowl and a Winter Olympics. Such is the mindset of a sore loser.

    Then there are the cord-cutters – who may never heard of using an antenna until recently.

    Cord-cutters are streaming the Super Bowl via Hulu, NBCsports.com, or similar providers. “Using an antenna” is obsolete.

    #180189

    colgate2004
    Participant

    Cord-cutters are streaming the Super Bowl via Hulu, NBCsports.com, or similar providers. “Using an antenna” is obsolete.

    <– 35-year-old cord cutter watching the Super Bowl today via the “obsolete” antenna I installed on my roof two years ago, right here.

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