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  • #181800

    Nathan Obral
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    The WNEU application to move to Needham is for their post repack channel 29, which can’t happen until WUTF moves from 29 to 19 when the repack hits the Boston market in mid-2019.

    WMFP, which carries ch 60.5, must shut down before the end of April, 2018. WMFP will begin sharing with WWDP at that time, but that won’t include 60.5. Therefore 60.5 has a month left, at most. Viewers dependent on 60.5 now, will be have to use WYCN 15.1 (on WGBX) beginning in April.

    I can’t imagine there would be that many viewers left for 60.5 after NBC has been billing 8.1, 15.1 and 60.2 as the OTA homes of “NBC 10.”

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    #181943

    alg2468
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    https://www.rabbitears.info/market.php?request=station_search&callsign=wjar

    WLNE has been granted a Construction Permit for change to its signal:  A non-directional signal pattern with an increase of antenna height and power of 465 kw in all directions, so its signal will penetrate through Boston’s North Shore and Eastern Connecticut.

    WJAR’s application for a nondirectional antenna system – keeping its current antenna height and 1000 Kw is still pending.

    Both stations transmit from the same tower in Rehoboth, which also has the transmitter for low power WRIW-CD, the Telemundo station on ch. 50, and I don’t know if that station will stay on the air or merge with another in the market.

    WPRI and WSBE have been granted Construction permits also: WPRI moves to DTV 7 at 27 Kw, and WSBE moves to ch 2 at 10 Kw.  The fact these ststations move to lower VHF – especially WSBE – makes the claims that rabbitears and rec.com have of maps showing an over 6o mile range with nondirectional antennas questionable.

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    #181951

    Channel99
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    WSBE chose to take the cash in the auction, in return for moving from UHF to low VHF, so they have to live with any signal issues. But, WPRI is really a victim here, since they did not participate in the auction, and though staying in the same band, are being moved from the best high VHF channel (13) to what is arguably the worst (7) as part of the repack.

    #181954

    alg2468
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    WSBE chose to take the cash in the auction, in return for moving from UHF to low VHF, so they have to live with any signal issues. But, WPRI is really a victim here, since they did not participate in the auction, and though staying in the same band, are being moved from the best high VHF channel (13) to what is arguably the worst (7) as part of the repack.

    Channel 99, you are exactly right. WPRI could have a tougher time with its signal when it moves, and WSBE will be tougher to receive unless you have a long antenna. WJAR gets a boost with a nondirectional signal. WLNE gets the biggest prize with a nondirectional signal, an increase of antenna height to the top of the WJAR tower, and a power increase, so the old “snowy ch 6” of analog days could be a long gone memory.
    #182030

    Channel99
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    Suspecting NBC Boston might do something odd at midnight with ch 60-5,  I was not disappointed. March 31 was to be their last day sharing with WMFP (scheduled to shut down later in April).  Saturday Night Live was in progress, with no crawl running, and they (or WMFP) pulled the plug at 12:01. No slide directing viewers to rescan – just nothing. The virtual channel is there – with no video and or audio.  Appropriate on April Fools Day…

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    #182033

    Uncle Kaimbridge
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    Suspecting NBC Boston might do something odd at midnight with ch 60-5, I was not disappointed. March 31 was to be their last day sharing with WMFP (scheduled to shut down later in April). Saturday Night Live was in progress, with no crawl running, and they (or WMFP) pulled the plug at 12:01. No slide directing viewers to rescan – just nothing. The virtual channel is there – with no video and or audio. Appropriate on April Fools Day…

    Actually, they are still there, in WWJE:50-27 fashion—PSIP data for a couple of seconds, then “No Signal”…though the signal meter shows a full signal.
    But it isnʼt just WBTS:60.5—WMFP:62.3 and WMFP:62.4 (all RF-18) are also “hidden” as “No Signal”, with the first couple of seconds with their respective PSIP data!
    The only channel decoding “normally” is WMFP:62.1, airing (which I believe is leased) Swaggartʼs Bible thumping pablum.

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    #182042

    Channel99
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    “But it isnʼt just WBTS:60.5—WMFP:62.3 and WMFP:62.4 (all RF-18) are also “hidden” as “No Signal”, with the first couple of seconds with their respective PSIP data!
    The only channel decoding “normally” is WMFP:62.1, airing (which I believe is leased) Swaggartʼs Bible thumping pablum.”

    The contracts probably ran out at midnight, except Jimmy Swaggart’s SonLife, which must be the only one moving to WMFP’s channel sharing on WWDP sometime this month.

    WMFP has little reason to change the PSIP configuration, since the ch 18 transmitter will be nothing but scrap within the next 2 weeks.

    I wonder what a used DTV transmitter sells for these days…

     

     

    #182079

    Uncle Kaimbridge
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    WMFP has little reason to change the PSIP configuration, since the ch 18 transmitter will be nothing but scrap within the next 2 weeks.

    Well, they finally did what they should have originally—sometime between 4ish-5:10pm yesterday they cut off the 60.5, 62.3 and 62.4 subchannels completely: I had checked 60.5 around 4pm and it still had the WWJE:50.2 effect; then, after switching to H&I on 38.2, at 5:10 I “Previous Ch.”‐ed back to 60.5 and, after lingering (in WWJE:50.2 mode?) for a second or two, it flicked over to 62.1…no sign of 60.5, 62.3 or 62.4, even when trying different 18.#s—every subchannel now redirects to 62.1!

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    #182094

    Mike Fitzpatrick
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    “But it isnʼt just WBTS:60.5—WMFP:62.3 and WMFP:62.4 (all RF-18) are also “hidden” as “No Signal”, with the first couple of seconds with their respective PSIP data! The only channel decoding “normally” is WMFP:62.1, airing (which I believe is leased) Swaggartʼs Bible thumping pablum.” The contracts probably ran out at midnight, except Jimmy Swaggart’s SonLife, which must be the only one moving to WMFP’s channel sharing on WWDP sometime this month. WMFP has little reason to change the PSIP configuration, since the ch 18 transmitter will be nothing but scrap within the next 2 weeks. I wonder what a used DTV transmitter sells for these days…

    WMFP has a Comark Paragon, which is extremely popular UHF transmitter used all over the country. With stations “still” running for a year or two, the parts are indeed quite valuable. The RF section on Channel 18 is also worth something to a station looking to put in an aux or other non-reimbursed costs.
    #182129

    Channel99
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    “WMFP has a Comark Paragon, which is extremely popular UHF transmitter used all over the country. With stations “still” running for a year or two, the parts are indeed quite valuable. The RF section on Channel 18 is also worth something to a station looking to put in an aux or other non-reimbursed costs.”

    Interesting.  With so many stations filing for new transmitter reimbursements in their 399 forms, there will have to be a lot of the replaced units on the market in the next couple of years, though.

     

    #183089

    Channel99
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    WMFP on ch 18 may be around a bit longer.  Today they applied for a 45 day extension to the previous extension in order to remain on the air until the end of August.  The reason? – the DirecTV uplink site is unable to receive the pitiful over-the-air signal of WWDP, with which WMFP will be sharing, and a fiber line ordered from Verizon is taking much longer than expected to install:

    https://enterpriseefiling.fcc.gov/dataentry/api/download/attachment/25076f916446e17501648a87ec4f4f8a

     

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