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  • #136559

    raccoonradio
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    WCAP Lowell dropping Howie in June for progressive Jeff Santos.Wonder if RKO put a big stink up about CAP carrying Howie in part of their territory.Station was added to make up for MEX weaker signal.Or maybe Howie had been buying time on CAP. Stations like CAP, WBSM and WFEA were added to make up for MEX signal deficiencies.

    http://www.radiodiscussions.com/showthread.php?687066-Jeff-Santos-Moves-to-3-6P-on-WCAP

    #136562

    raccoonradio
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    CAP may have found RKO getting the show back hurt them as some advertisers would rather go with bigger stations/signals like 680

    #136563

    radioperson
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    <p abp=”623″>Streaming is going to have it’s place, but until an actual one-to-many reliable system can come about that’s FREE, most of the audience will be on terrestrial. There isn’t near enough bandwidth, or streams available, to move every terrestrial listener to the internet.

    I’ve often wondered about that. Let’s just imagine there’s a big growth in streaming listening in the car. Now imagine what the freeways in major cities like L.A., Chicago or New York look like during rush hour. What percentage of those vehicles can be served individual streams simultaneously before the carriers’ bandwidth can’t handle it any more?

    They said the same thing in the 1920s when more and more people were buying telephones.

    They found a way then and will find a way now.

    #136564

    radioperson
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    No, despite the fact that terrestrial radio more often than not has abandoned many of us (55+) in favor of the “low-information voter” crowd

    Oh brother. Why don’t you just say “why don’t you kids get off my lawn”?

    I have found that younger people are generally far more savvy about the fact that BOTH parties suck. They constitute the largest percentage of voters who are registered “Independent”.

    This is why “affirmation-based”, party-oriented talk radio is dying.

    “Low information voters”? I don’t hear a lot of young people accusing Obama of being a Muslim, having a fake birth certificate or spending 200 billion or something on a trip to India and believing every word.

    #136572

    raccoonradio
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    So far it’s only been on one source and we’ll see if anybody can confirm it (so take this with a bunch of salt) but Tom Taylor Now is claiming Rush is off WRKO after tomorrow. Supposedly it was to not happen for a couple more weeks, but maybe they’re cutting and running now with fill ins in the noon slot till the supposed mid-June debut of the new morning show (and thus Kuhner to noon?)

    #136573

    John Garrett
    Member

    Oh brother. Why don’t you just say “why don’t you kids get off my lawn”?

    I have found that younger people are generally far more savvy about the fact that BOTH parties suck. They constitute the largest percentage of voters who are registered “Independent”.

    This is why “affirmation-based”, party-oriented talk radio is dying.

    “Low information voters”? I don’t hear a lot of young people accusing Obama of being a Muslim, having a fake birth certificate or spending 200 billion or something on a trip to India and believing every word.

    Well said. “The Wrong Information Voters” are those who listen to the propaganda from the likes of Limbo and Crazy Kuhner and take it as fact. Yesterday I heard Howie Carr say that all an undocumented alien has to say is that there are Gay and will be persucuted if they are sent back to their country and they are granted asylum. That is a lie that I gaurantee that has been repeated this morning by several angry old white men as they sit around their local DD with their friends.

    #136579

    raccoonradio
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    Am unenrolled,been so for years,and am now 53.If that’s considered young I’m flattered but it’s closer to retired than young but I still enjoy Howie,who does do other topics besides politics on occasion. Btw I think it was John who said the folks now leasing WMEX included Bryan Berner’s wealthy aunt or something. You were right..,at least it was recently revealed Daly XXL involved his relatives,so credit to you!
    They have been low key about it till now..,at least website looks better,

    #136580

    Autodyne
    Member

    Autodyne, I’m frankly a bit surprised by your comment on streaming, given that your icon is that of a radio antenna and tuned circuit. 🙂

    I’m an equal opportunity technology supporter. I’ll have to find a Wifi radio circuit diagram and a smart phone schematic and alternate avatars 🙂

    Streaming multiple audio sources on the basic cable internet works well for me at home (video is only reliable at 2-3 simultaneous streams). In the car, I’m still old-school – satellite radio. I’m not going to be fussing with an involved streaming interface while I’m busy keeping an eye out for the texting imbeciles on the road (low-intellect drivers).

    Assuming one lives in a populous corridor, thereby having access to mobile streaming, one of the ways to handle the eventual streaming traffic jam could be through audiocast subscriptions where content is pushed out in a file as it becomes available. It’s not realtime, but it can be close enough (like listening to a one or three hour old talk show or a news summary for the day). People can access their cloud content that way too – load sharing. At least until the satellite-enabled 10 terabyte watch and petabyte-implanted underwear technology is perfected.

    People who’d rather listen to non-news based talk like sports, aren’t going to be more attracted to issues programming even if Sean Hannity markets his show as “solutions for America” instead of “shaming the political numbskulls.” Low Info Voters aren’t young or old. But they did elect and endorse the government we have now despite ample and adequate warnings.

    We could save the AM band by requiring voters to answer a simple current events questionnaire and put the info on at the tail end of a lively debate show. Of course the FCC would mandate a program so that everyone would have access to an “affordable” AM receiver. Better add a TV subchannel option. Most homes already have those audio with picture devices.

    #136588

    Joseph_Gallant

    I wouldn’t say talk radio is dead (in theory, it should be able to regenerate itself as new issues develop in the news; the next eighteen months should be prime fodder for the format considering we’re that amount of time away from a Presidential election where we will elect a new commander-In-Chief since President Barack Obama can’t run for another term), but the format needs an infusion of new talent (both nationally and on local stations) and some tweaks.

    #136613

    Nathan Obral
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    I wouldn’t say talk radio is dead (in theory, it should be able to regenerate itself as new issues develop in the news; the next eighteen months should be prime fodder for the format considering we’re that amount of time away from a Presidential election where we will elect a new commander-In-Chief since President Barack Obama can’t run for another term),

    We already know how it’s going to play out. Hillary Clinton is, for all intents and purposes, the heavy favorite to win the election next year.

    While I am now heavily opposed to political dynasties, I really don’t want to hear the same conservatalkers pulling their cranky old man act on a President Hillary like they have been for President Obama… the past few weeks of them ripping her for State Department emails and Benghazi have been simple aural torture and a major turn-off.

    but the format needs an infusion of new talent (both nationally and on local stations) and some tweaks.

    How is that going to happen when most talk stations are tethered to red-meat conservatalkers by virtue of their ownership… some of which (Cumulus) have made it known that they aren’t fans of red-meat talk radio and are seemingly playing out the string by running has-beens (Johnny B and Steve Dahl) and never-was-es (KABC’s entire local lineup) instead?

    The midterms last year SHOULD have provided a bump for conservatalkers, instead, many stations flatlined. Some ever saw record lows. That should tell you something.

    Talk radio doesn’t need just a “few tweaks.” It needs to be completely torn asunder, bashed into the ground and systematically rebuilt from scratch.

    Recorded in Ultra Stereo, the ultimately superior cousin to Normal Stereo!

    #136662

    raccoonradio
    Participant

    Ed Perry of WATD, on Facebook:
    “We’re in no rush to add Rush, Scott. Certainly not on WATD-FM where our 65 golden weekday hours are always programmed locally. And once we get Brockton [1460] back on the air I expect to follow the same protocol there. “

    #136663

    raccoonradio
    Participant

    >>SHOULD have provided a bump for conservatalkers

    The “all left” or “all right”-leaning talk has been the conventional wisdom for years, but both are taking their lumps. For those in the “mushy middle”, moderates, many listeners say “uh, boring” (Huckabee, Dennis Miller–conservative in some ways, liberal in others). WWWT 1500 in Wash DC
    tried “Left, Right, and Whatever We Want”; it didn’t work. (The same city had, if I remember right,
    “Obama 1260” and “McCain 570”–the all left or all right model)

    It helps when talkers go to subjects other than politics. You know the host I still enjoy (he’s 63, I’m 53, and I still enjoy him)–Howie Carr–can talk TV, pop culture (including nostalgia–interviews with the likes of Lily Tomlin, Mike Love), pets, “dumbing down of America”, gangsters, some sports etc.
    Politics, politics, politics…people need a bit of variety. (His local focus means he probably wouldn’t be a hit nationally but he does OK in New England. Unless he did a show with a couple hours for a national audience, then 1 or 2 for the regional folks…”So the governor said”–What governor? Tom Wolf? Jerry Brown? Andrew Cuomo? Oh, Charlie Baker…’cause he’s Boston-based…)

    #136667

    borderblaster
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    Used to be you could do that with talk. One problem is so much of the “general interest” pop culture talk is now on FM music station morning shows.

    quote=136663]>>SHOULD have provided a bump for conservatalkers

    The “all left” or “all right”-leaning talk has been the conventional wisdom for years, but both are taking their lumps. For those in the “mushy middle”, moderates, many listeners say “uh, boring” (Huckabee, Dennis Miller–conservative in some ways, liberal in others). WWWT 1500 in Wash DC
    tried “Left, Right, and Whatever We Want”; it didn’t work. (The same city had, if I remember right,
    “Obama 1260″ and “McCain 570″–the all left or all right model)

    It helps when talkers go to subjects other than politics. You know the host I still enjoy (he’s 63, I’m 53, and I still enjoy him)–Howie Carr–can talk TV, pop culture (including nostalgia–interviews with the likes of Lily Tomlin, Mike Love), pets, “dumbing down of America”, gangsters, some sports etc.
    Politics, politics, politics…people need a bit of variety. (His local focus means he probably wouldn’t be a hit nationally but he does OK in New England. Unless he did a show with a couple hours for a national audience, then 1 or 2 for the regional folks…”So the governor said”–What governor? Tom Wolf? Jerry Brown? Andrew Cuomo? Oh, Charlie Baker…’cause he’s Boston-based…)

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    #136677

    Nathan Obral
    Participant

    >>SHOULD have provided a bump for conservatalkers

    The “all left” or “all right”-leaning talk has been the conventional wisdom for years, but both are taking their lumps. For those in the “mushy middle”, moderates, many listeners say “uh, boring” (Huckabee, Dennis Miller–conservative in some ways, liberal in others). WWWT 1500 in Wash DC
    tried “Left, Right, and Whatever We Want”; it didn’t work. (The same city had, if I remember right,
    “Obama 1260″ and “McCain 570″–the all left or all right model)

    Ah, yes. 3WT. And that happened after “Washington Post Radio 1500” – a joint venture between the Washington Post and owner Bonneville – collapsed.

    Redskins owner Dan Snyder did the election year “McCain 570″/”Obama 1260” stunt when he bought what had been “AM 570 WTNT” and “AM 1260 – DC’s Progressive Talk” WWRC from CC, along with “Sports Talk 980” WTEM.

    As soon as President Obama was inaugurated, WTNT was rebadged “Freedom 570” and hired Kuhner in PMD, while WWRC went all-business before it was spun off to Salem (with WWRC cast-off Ed Schultz winding up on WTNT for whatever reason).

    Recorded in Ultra Stereo, the ultimately superior cousin to Normal Stereo!

    #136691

    Autodyne
    Member

    It helps when talkers go to subjects other than politics.

    Savage has been the one nationally to pull that off most successfully with his stream of consciousness ramblings about where he went/is going to dinner and trips on his boat. And then he transitions smoothly into his unvarnished political opinions.

    I hear he’s marketing the non-political aspect more these days. Whether that will work for others is debatable. The core audience wants red meat in their program diet, the protestations of non-fans notwithstanding. TSL shows the way.

    I’d love to see quarter-hour PPM numbers for some of these hosts vs topics. After the stations have installed their Voltairs of course.

    I do think that, like Howard Stern, Rush could describe drying paint in a way that would keep his audience engaged. It’s a storytelling talent. It would likely be red paint as told by Rush, and pink as related by Howard. 🙂

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