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This topic contains 13 replies, has 9 voices, and was last updated by  miajacob098 1 month, 2 weeks ago.

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  • #184660

    MediaFan85
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    The station has banned “Baby It’s Cold Outside” because of its lyrics, and now they are getting press for it.  Fox 8 even did a story on the move.  Thoughts?

    #184662

    skiwest
    Participant

    Why don’t they do a story on hip-hop “music” lyrics?  Oh, wait, that might offend a particular demographic.  I guess they can’t do that.

    #184664

    Yekimi
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    So listeners complained and got it banned. By that logic, if  people call and complain about their commercials, they’ll stop running commercials! Or maybe they just play pop instrumentals, no lyrics for anyone to get upset about. I can see a resurgence of Lawrence Welk’s “Calcutta”!

     

    #184668

    Crazy Monkey
    Participant

    How ’bout they stop playing Mariah Scarey, Wham!, and Lennon every hour on repeat and play more variety of Christmas music.  That’s my only complaint.

    #184669

    Nathan Obral
    Participant

    Honestly, a lot of traditional Christmas songs played on the radio are dated and tired as hell. This just reeks of a publicity stunt so people talk about WDOK and tune in to them instead of WMJI.

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    #184670

    cartwright
    Participant

    ^ agreed. They could have just taken it off the playlist without making reference to it and 99.9% of folks would never have noticed.

    #184683

    mightyvoice
    Participant

    ^ agreed. They could have just taken it off the playlist without making reference to it and 99.9% of folks would never have noticed.

    This is spot on, the story is also starting to get some national attention as well.  Gotta say I never paid too much mind to that song, until hearing it last year and thinking “damn, these lyrics are pretty creepy.”  That being said this isn’t the only Christmas song that leans towards the unsavory…..after all the woman in “I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus” is essentially cheating on her husband, lol
    #184685

    Yekimi
    Participant

    Add this to the list of songs that people freak out over. A few years ago it was “You’re 16” by Ringo Starr. [Originally done by Johnny Burnette back in 1960. Johnny was the father of Rocky Burnette who had a hit in the 80s with “Tired Of Toein’ The Line”. But I digress.] I remember whatever station I was listening to putting a lady on-air who was raising hell about how “creepy” it was that a grown man was singing about a 16 year old girl that way. I was thinking “It’s a fucking remake of a song 13 years after the original and it’s been 30+ years since it came out. Things were way different back then. If anybody’s the pervert, lady, YOU are if that’s the first thing that popped into your mind. Get it out of the gutter!”

    #184726

    MediaFan85
    Participant

    WDOK has actually not posted on their Facebook and Twitter pages since yesterday afternoon.  The backlash has now reached global news outlets.  What could happen going forward?  WKYC-TV reports that Star won’t give in to play the song.

    #184915

    John Basalla
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    A couple of a-bit late notes:  The implication in “I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus” is that she’s kissing her husband who is playing Santa Claus.  It’s the same in the Country Christmas hit, “Santa Looks A Lot Like Daddy”.

    Stations, or station groups probably did a test or survey to ascertain what songs should be aired.  So, what we got, for one thing, were multiple versions of some of the biggies such as “Jingle Bell Rock”, “Holly Jolly Christmas” and “Rockin’ Around The Christmas Tree”.  For me, if it’s not Burl Ives singing “Holly Jolly Christmas”, it’s not so good.  A newer version of “Rockin’ Around The Christmas Tree” muted the guitar, making it way less effective.

    I, too, think that pulling “Baby, It’s Cold Outside” was as much of a radio stunt as anything.  Maybe some of the other media outlets who reported on it kind of figured that out, but went with it anyway.

    Dennis Prager bought into it seriously on his radio talk show a couple of times.  I called into his show, and told the call screener that I was in the market this station was in, and that I, and others, think it is a radio stunt to put a spotlight on that station’s Christmas music programming to drive up listenership vs. the competition.  She said she would tell Dennis.  I don’t know if she actually did.

    #184919

    skiwest
    Participant

    I’m sure someone could find something offensive in just about everything.  Holly Jolly Christmas has the line about kissing someone under the mistletoe.  That is a no-no now.  Maybe that song needs to be banned.  And what about Sleigh Ride?  The PETA people are probably upset about that poor horse being whipped.  Maybe that one needs to be banned also.  And so on and so on.

    C’mon people.  Let’s lighten up a little.

    #184924

    Nathan Obral
    Participant

    I, too, think that pulling “Baby, It’s Cold Outside” was as much of a radio stunt as anything. Maybe some of the other media outlets who reported on it kind of figured that out, but went with it anyway.

    Dennis Prager bought into it seriously on his radio talk show a couple of times. I called into his show, and told the call screener that I was in the market this station was in, and that I, and others, think it is a radio stunt to put a spotlight on that station’s Christmas music programming to drive up listenership vs. the competition. She said she would tell Dennis. I don’t know if she actually did.

    You know that totally undermined his narrative. She likely never told him, or if she did, it went nowhere. Anecdotes like this, albeit not specifically WRT what WDOK did, are why writers like Jonah Goldberg have written about conservatives seemingly living the inverse of Ben Shapiro’s mantra… their feelings don’t care about the facts.

    And honestly, that type of a reaction by Dennis I saw coming a mile away. It wasn’t just him, it was quite a few talking heads on cable news (the oft-fact-free Tucker Carlson, for one) who took what WDOK did and warped it into their own agenda.

    But this is symptomatic of a larger problem, as if a station here did something similar that antagonized liberals, the reaction would actually be not that indifferent. We have access to more information than ever before, but we are acting stupider and stupider.

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    #184930

    mightyvoice
    Participant

    Regardless of how you feel about WDOK’s decision and what the reaction says about our society, the truth really is that the overall impact of their decision on our holiday lives is extremely minimal.  Gone are the days that we rely on a terrestrial radio station to provide us with our favorite songs.  If you wanted to hear “Baby It’s Cold Outside”, you’ve got numerous options on your phone/computer that allow you to hear it at a moments notice….and allow you to hear it until your heart is content.  For those who are still not very phone/computer savvy I’m sure the song is included on several holiday compilation CDs/cassettes/records/8-tracks.  News outlets and talk-show hosts should be sending WDOK thank-you cards for their publicity stunt providing them with content, lol

    #184987

    miajacob098
    Participant

    But why?

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