Why Doesn't WCBS-FM 101.1 Actually Play Oldies Anymore?

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  • #112876

    musiconradio.com
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    It is a shift in demos and eras. This argument probably went on in the 70’s with people saying what happened to the great artists of the late 40’s on the radio.

    Here is a example: We played Paula Abdul Straight Up the other day.

    Intern (23 years old): Who is that?
    Me: Paula Abdul
    Intern: The one on American Idol
    Me:Yep
    Intern: She Sang!
    Me: Yep
    Intern: Cool!

    To sum it up:

    Benny Goodman were your grandparents oldies
    Jefferson Starship, and The Supremes are my parents oldies.
    Elton John & Fleetwood Mac are your oldies. (classic hits)
    The Police & Cyndi Lauper are my oldies. (adult hits)
    TLC and Nirvana are this generations oldies (old school/Throwbacks)

    Up next: Brittany Spears & Sugar Ray.

    Same as it ever was.

    #112878

    Beachguy
    Participant

    If you played songs now that were the same age as the ones CBS-FM played when it switched in 1972, they would be playing songs from 1997, 1998 and newer. Something to keep in mind…

    #112880

    MattParker
    Blocked

    When CBS-FM flipped to Oldies in 1972, what the late Casey Kasem used to call “the rock era” was about 16 years old. They couldn’t go back too far. At least not without going head to head with “The Make Believe Ballroom” on WNEW.

    #112886

    Bongwater
    Participant

    “Oldies” still tends to conjure up visions of sock-hops, greasy hair, doo-wop and ’57 Chevys.

    Not that there’s anything wrong with them, but even the Baby Boomer parents in the ’80s felt uncomfortable with the term being applied to their music from the late ’60s and early ’70s.

    It REALLY feels weird when it’s applied to the ’80s-’90s. Even though “Smells Like Teen Spirit” is 23 years old now and definitely qualifies as an “Oldie” (it was a MONSTER, generation defining hit from the past that still holds up through the test of time.) Somehow, the word “Oldie” and grunge rock absolutely CLASH.

    So “Classic Hits” is probably the better term for it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00sy6_jv7Lc

    #112888

    K.M. Richards
    Participant

    “Brown Eyed Girl”???? Please. Sorry, that does not count.

    Only because it’s the song you hate most on today’s Classic Hits stations. As long as it continues to test well (and apparently it does as well in testing for WCBS-FM as it does for KRTH) it’ll stay in the library.

    K.M. Richards, Creator of "The Eighties Channel"

    #112893

    Mark
    Participant

    When CBS-FM flipped to Oldies in 1972, what the late Casey Kasem used to call “the rock era” was about 16 years old. They couldn’t go back too far. At least not without going head to head with “The Make Believe Ballroom” on WNEW.

    On YouTube there’s a WLS Chicago aircheck from a “Treasure Tune” week in 1967–seven years into Top 40 at the Big 89 and 12 years past “Rock Around the Clock”–the big Top 40 station in Chicago still had a 40s Benny Goodman song in their library. Even considering that this was a special all-oldies week, I would assume that at least the daytime jocks at LS in 1967 could still play Glenn Miller’s “In the Mood” as a “Treasure Tune.” That wasn’t happening across the river at WCFL, where there were only 10 “Encores” available to a jock per week in the Ken Draper era (they changed every week) and nothing before Bill Haley and Elvis.

    #112895

    microbob
    Participant

    But as for oldies/classic hits stations with a 1955-1972 era playlist, those are very rare to find in the first place. A few exist – “Kool Kat Oldies 1380″ WDLW/1380 Lorain is located right in my backyard, with a massive playlist accented with listener requests and live air talent on the weekends! Sadly, they do not stream… which is a shame, as my description does not do the station justice.

    1480 WDJO in Cincinnati plays 50 and 60’s. They recently shifted away from the 70’s and went back playing basically the same playlist when they started.They do stream 128k stereo which sounds very good.

    http://www.oldies1480.net/

    #112948

    eskorch
    Participant

    If you miss oldies and most of all their proper presentation with jingles and on the weekends music knowledge, then you need, need, need! to find http://www.rewoundradio.com

    #112956

    MattParker
    Blocked

    Good points: 50s and 60s Oldies are available online (lots of different channels) and even on some HD sub-channels (where many stations send the stuff they used to play).

    #112979

    musiconradio.com
    Participant

    “Oldies” still tends to conjure up visions of sock-hops, greasy hair, doo-wop and ’57 Chevys.

    Yes for those who grew up in the era. For me (oldies) mean the word on a Art Laboe record cover, and what my parents have told me that about the era. For the generation that grew up with Nirvana it means outdated.

    At 48 there are very few products and services advertised that I really care for (and I am in radio). So I understand the buyers logic.

    With the respect of boring old radio. Go for it, find those streams, and listen to them. Quit wasting time talking about boring terrestrial radio.

    Yes, when I am in the mood to hear a certain song, I will listen to something online but with a busy schedule it is easier to hit scan to find a choice, and most do the same.

    With the exception of Stern (who signed a great deal) and some other announcers who signed deals with XM. Several announcers who swore off radio for online have returned in most cases back to the dinosaur beacuase they know the listeners are there.

    Don’t get me wrong. I know there is much competition out there, but we are still the first choice, and will be for awhile.

    http://www.soundctrl.com/why-terrestrial-radio-is-here-to-stay/

    #112999

    “Brown Eyed Girl”???? Please. Sorry, that does not count.

    Recorded and released in 1967, therefore it does count.

    #113043

    kevtronics
    Participant

    AM 1250 WMTR in Morristown, NJ is audible in parts of NYC and is sticking pretty closely to an Oldies format. They’ve added a handful of ’80s songs by core artists (like “Kokomo” by the Beach Boys and “The Longest Time” by Billy Joel) but are still playing ’50s and early ’60s music — quite a lot of it, in fact. Unfortunately they no longer stream online because the music licensing cost got to be too great (or at least that’s their excuse).

    They have live morning and afternoon DJs, a voice-tracked mid-day DJ, and automated overnights and weekends — plus a Doo-Wop show on Friday nights.

    #113076

    Joe
    Participant

    So, I tweeted CBS FM, asking, Will you ever bring back 50s and early 60s hits? And their response was, “Any chance we get, we do. We love that music but it just gets voted down.” Am I missing something here? How often have you guys heard it? Because I never do.

    #113141

    Alex Browne
    Participant

    Who’s doing the “voting”? We’ve never been given a ballot!

    #113157

    Warren Hodges Jr
    Participant

    So, I tweeted CBS FM, asking, Will you ever bring back 50s and early 60s hits? And their response was, “Any chance we get, we do. We love that music but it just gets voted down.” Am I missing something here? How often have you guys heard it? Because I never do.

    Who’s doing the “voting”? We’ve never been given a ballot!

    I think this was just a ‘canned’ answer suggesting they want to play 50’s &60’s hits but the audience doesn’t want to hear them. The ‘vote’, if it ever happened was by annalist experts, deciding what people want.

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