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Shall We Talk About the Weather?

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Helen Little 106.7 Lite-FM WLTW New York
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I had a revelation in listening to WKST (96.1 Kiss) Pittsburgh last week, as part of my Fresh Listen to that station and WHTZ (Z100) New York. It was because of p.m. driver Tall Cathy. 

Tall Cathy’s five breaks that hour included some celebrity topicals (Ariana Grande finally speaking out on Nickelodeon, Joey Chestnut splitting from Nathan’s), but there was also a first break of the hour about that day being a Wednesday that felt like Thursday and another about Pirates pitcher Paul Skenes getting a standing ovation on the road the night before, then teasing that evening’s game. (I need to emphasize that the Wednesday bit had no mention at all of “hump day”; there was clearly an attempt to be creative with it.)

A few months ago, I had a similar revelation listening to middayer Helen Little on WLTW (Lite FM) New York. Little did a “handshake break” — the first one of the show – that was “happy Friday,” “got any weekend plans?” and “it’s going to be a nice day.” Later that hour, she encouraged listeners to make time to enjoy the beautiful weather, even if it was just going to the window.

Little is a great jock, was a talented programmer, and has been one of my favorite people in the business for 30 years. She is one of Lite FM’s strengths. WKST has been one of CHR’s biggest surprise comebacks. I share stories like the above very cautiously because so much of the campaign against local personality for the last 25 years has been hinged on “couldn’t a voice-tracker do that?” Or now, “couldn’t AI just talk about the weather and the ballgame?”

Tall Cathy Kiss 96.1 WKST-FM Pittsburgh
Tall Cathy

So if you think I am being in any way reductive about either host, you are missing my point. Part of what stood out about Kiss 96.1 under PD David Edgar was how much it felt like a classic full-service radio experience. Some of what I heard (sweepers about the Paris Olympics) were different. Some breaks and sweepers just made you feel more like somebody was on duty in a way that you don’t always get now. Teams of radio scientists are clearly trying to get AI to talk about the ballgame now and sound natural, but you already have somebody on your staff who knows how to do that.

As a radio fan, the breaks I’ve always quoted to other radio people are the bravura pieces of writing — the punchlines that I remember decades later. When I wrote an article about what I would have personalities talk about “If I Had Six Breaks an Hour,” I admit that the basics weren’t specifically among them. But I did ask for more localism, and talking about the Pirates certainly counts. 

Some of this, frankly, might have been about my own ability to volley back in some conversations. I envy people who can talk to anybody about anything. As basic as it seems, I am sometimes not ready for “nice day, isn’t it?” I always want to start the conversation further in. But I should stop and enjoy my beautiful day more often, too. 

As it happens, I’m also increasingly aware of how many radio people are better at small talk on the radio than at the supermarket checkout. But as more checkout lines become self-service, I miss that interaction, too. Part of radio’s value in a post-COVID world is to provide the small interpersonal dealings that on-site co-workers no longer offer every day. The essence of personality on a WLTW-style AC has always been the brush strokes that embellish station business, even if it just reading those liners with vocal nuance. 

There is a talent in being able to talk to listeners in a way that their friends and co-workers can. There is a talent in being able to entertain in a way that those friends and co-workers cannot. Radio found its place with both “aircheck moments” — those bits or breaks remembered years later — and small moments. I am increasingly happy to encounter either.

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  1. Rick Nuhn's avatar Rick Nuhn says:
    2 years ago

    Yo Sean~~

    Your appreciation for talented jocks never seems to waver.
    #donteverstop

    2fingers,
    nuhn

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  2. Mike Montgomery's avatar Mike Montgomery says:
    2 years ago

    Well, research has always revealed that the listener likes personalities. It’’s only the moment they begin selling, the interest wanes 🤷🏻‍♂️

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    • Smokey Rivers's avatar Smokey Rivers says:
      2 years ago

      Lesson “A” from the Sean Ross School of Radio: Sound On Duty. That’s why I love you. Never stop.

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  3. jholiday's avatar jholiday says:
    2 years ago

    Sean, thank you for being a cheerleader for personalities who are being relatable and local! Love hearing about these!

    P.s. an added bonus for me was “that the Wednesday bit had no mention at all of “hump day”. That is the dumbest cliche I’ve ever heard. Just a pet peeve for me.

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  4. BC's avatar BC says:
    2 years ago

    I disagree that people don’t like the selling, people don’t like sales people masquerading as personalities. Radio scientist can keep working on those artificial voices, talking about the weather, having grown up using synthesize speech voices, it still sounds obvious. There’s a moment for it, like advertising, But tarnishing a brand image and trying to hide it, would just validate the fact that some stations really are just trying lowest common denominator programming. Now onto the good stuff. Having grown up in the 90s in Pittsburgh, hearing that a station David Edgar runs having heavy personality, is absolutely no surprise to me. It would be nice to see 96.1 kiss be the B 94 of this generation! When did becoming a radio personality gets so hard? People want the basics, the second that personality stop being so insecure and giving into the wishes of tech companies, or fleeting social media moments, will be the moment that radio can actually return to doing what radio was supposed to be doing, well that is, at least if you work for a company that allows you to be more than a carnival barker.

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  5. mikeberlak's avatar mikeberlak says:
    2 years ago

    I’ve always preached that the AC/Soft AC host is there to be the listeners’ (especially the at-work listeners’) “portal” to the outside world. That includes weather, ballgames, traffic issues, observations along the commute, major breaking local news, anything else the whole market is experiencing but the listener may be missing. Maybe instead of having them push their listeners to social media sites, how about using the social sites (and actual marketing) to direct listeners back to the air product.

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  6. Tony Lynn's avatar Tony Lynn says:
    2 years ago

    Funny you mention the supermarket. I was at a register waiting on the person in front of me to finish up with the clerk when this guy with one or two items came up behind me, I offered to have him go ahead of me, he declined and then went on to say he avoids the self checkout because he likes the interaction with the clerk. He enjoyed the “nice day” conversations. Point taken.

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