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The Songs That Bog Down Classic Hits

Sean Rossby Sean Ross
January 21, 2025
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Tonic If You Could Only SeeIf it were up to readers and Facebook friends, the ’90s song they’d most like to hear on the radio is “You Get What You Give” by New Radicals. That song should be perfect for Classic Hits. It’s fun and uptempo, despite its lyrical edge. “You Get” is a ’90s song that invokes the ’80s (if you think of it as a Daryll Hall & John Oates homage) or the ’70s (if you notice the Todd Rundgren resemblance instead). Some do play it. “You Get” had a not insignificant 455 Mediabase spins last week; about a third of them from Classic or Adult Hits stations.

The ’90s song that radio plays much more — coming in with 2,584 spins last week– is the much statelier “Iris” by the Goo Goo Dolls, one of the safest songs you can play in any format. WLS-FM Chicago played “Iris” 29x last week. Recently, LiveLine’s Mason Kelter suggested in his RadioInsight column that CHR stations could still play it (and some CHR stations did in fact hang on to it for longer than other comparable titles).

Currently, the top four ’90s songs at Classic Hits are “Iris,” “Don’t Speak” by No Doubt, “Losing My Religion” by R.E.M., and “Under the Bridge” by Red Hot Chili Peppers. Only “Losing” is not a ballad, and it’s not so happy (or shiny) itself. Before “Iris” took hold, “Under the Bridge” was the song with which Classic Hits pushed into the ‘90s. It feels wrong on Classic Hits to me in every way — dirge, downer topic, goes on forever — but I know many people just hear it as one of the greatest songs ever. (Maybe the Classic Hits connection is its odd momentary resemblance to this Partridge Family album cut — listen at :35.)

Much of what the Classic Hits station has to deal with from the ’90s is music grouped together now as “Modern AC” or “pop/alternative.” Those can be the Gin Blossoms or Soul Asylum from 1993. They can be Third Eye Blind or Matchbox 20 from decade’s end. Often, they include poppier songs like “Torn” by Natalie Imbruglia or “Lovefool” by the Cardigans that were “Alternative” mostly because labels tended to take any song they could to Alternative radio first, in hopes of getting more cred and selling albums, not singles.

Some of the enduring Modern AC hits — “Lovefool,” “Semi-Charmed Life” – are fun and uptempo, comparable in feel to ’80s powers such as “Girls Just Want to Have Fun” or “Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This).” Some tend to remind you of why teen pop made a comeback in the late ’90s — because listeners were tired of being bummed out. (S-Curve’s Steve Greenberg tells the story about how Soul Asylum’s “Misery” sent him looking for a Hanson to sign, but “Runaway Train,” the bigger, enduring hit, is pretty morose itself.)

As a 20-year music researcher, I want to listen to the audience. “Iris” usually tests. “You Get What You Give” squeaks through occasionally, although some of the PDs playing it this week are those I know to be research-conscious. But as stations give a greater portion of their hour to the ’90s — up to 40% at some stations I’ve heard — I’m more concerned about some similar secondary titles that sneak through, also including some early-’90s doldrums songs that have taken hold at the format as well. When you hear “Walkin’ in Memphis” by Mark Cohn two songs away from “If You Could Only See” by Tonic, it does affect both the feel and strength of the station. When those songs achieve critical mass, it feels like they bring the format to a halt more than they should.

To some extent, gold-based radio stations have always hewed to a model of fun older songs and more recent ballads. In the early ’80s, it was common at AC radio to hear “Long Cool Woman in a Black Dress” by the Hollies, followed by an Air Supply current. The songs that brought the ’70s into the oldies format were “Dreams” by Fleetwood Mac and “Just the Way You Are” by Billy Joel. “Dreams” became a center-lane song for years. It could certainly sap the energy out of “Louie Louie” or “Get Off of My Cloud” at first, though.

When the Adult Hits format took hold in the early ’00s, the newest song was usually Santana’s “Smooth.” It was uptempo (enough), by a heritage artist, and a massively beloved song. “Smooth” was the safe record in an hour that likely contained an ’80s oddity or two, the song that allowed you to get away with “I Ran (So Far Away)” by A Flock of Seagulls. But there was nothing fun about hearing it. When Classic Hits pushed into the ’00s, “Smooth” was also the gateway song, and we would eventually go way beyond that.  

In most ways, the question of whether the ’90s and even the early ’00s fit at Classic Hits is long resolved. For some PDs, even 30-year-old songs are old, and the original template of the format (playing the ’50s in the ’70s) dictates that Usher’s “Yeah” should be the center. Some of the most successful stations in the format are those that have moved most aggressively forward, from KXKL (Kool 105) Denver to KOLA Riverside, Calif. 

One of the most read Ross on Radio columns is “What Classic Hits Added” each year, and few readers sharply disagree. That was also the story when I asked Facebook friends what ’90s/’00s songs they liked on the radio, and which they didn’t. Besides the readers who wanted to hear “You Get What You Give,” “Smooth” was the easy winner of that category, although Rich Marino is tired of it and wishes PDs would move on to “The Game of Love.”

By contrast, there were far fewer songs that got cited for not quite fitting at Classic Hits. Often, those songs were as likely to be at the harsher end of the Alternative format (Radiohead’s “Creep,” Alanis Morisette’s “You Oughta Know”) as the soft end. Veteran PD Jerry Noble likes hearing Matchbox Twenty at Classic Hits; the one that pushes too far into Soft AC territory is Aerosmith’s “I Don’t Want to Miss a Thing.”

For some programmers, the once-defining “good times, great oldies” mindset of the Classic Hits format is as distant as the word “oldies” itself. Reader Jason Steiner bemoaned how “Classic Hits has become AC without currents.” I often agree, but I recognize that for KOLA that’s been the successful game plan all along. Whether that’s right for you depends in part on what the market gives you. KOLA doesn’t have a Mainstream AC competitor.

But what if you do want to maintain tempo or avoid grade inflation on some secondary and tertiary ballads?

  • Be less concerned with era overall. Virtual Jock’s Jason Kidd tells how his 14-year-old daughter’s tastes span from the ’60s to now. Classic Rock has made inroads in recent years, even with younger listeners, by being able to play the late ’60s/early ’70s as Classic Hits PDs flee the decade. There are always some songs that work for event jocks and not radio, but often the wedding reception model works.
  • Be more open to the pop and rhythmic ’90s. “This Is How We Do It” by Montell Jordan struggled for airplay at a Top 40 format that was mostly Modern AC in 1995. But songs like that or Bell Biv Devoe’s “Poison” or TLC’s “No Scrubs” are usually consistent testers when included. I’ve seen a few stations where Europop and Eurodance test well beyond Ace of Base.
  • Cultivate a few songs. I personally believe there is room to cultivate a somewhat familiar song that just sounds good on the radio for a while to see if it eventually performs in research, particularly if you’re playing enough other hits. If you can take responsibility for “You Get What You Give,” play it.
  • Embrace the ’00s more. My Facebook friends got into a side discussion of whether Lady Gaga fit. “Just Dance” and “Poker Face” are at least fun and uptempo. Even for somebody who chose Classic Hits over Mainstream AC or Top 40, I have to believe that those songs win the button punch over a second-tier Modern AC title (even if the concept of winning the punch is also increasingly abstract).

Modern AC, whether its individual titles, or as a format, cast a long shadow over all of pop and Alternative radio in the ’90s. There are programmers who believe we are ready for a gold-based format with a large helping of those songs; SiriusXM’s PopRocks is close to that now. If I were doing that format, “If You Could Only See” would be a power, and Tonic’s “You Wanted More” would be one of my secret weapons (as it was for many stations at the time). For the most part, though, the songs that bring radio to a halt are most effective when they really stand out.

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  1. Dave Howard's avatar Dave Howard says:
    1 year ago

    Yeah. The nineties are super weird as even the biggest smashes had a huge dollop of dour. And, it being the era of the need to fill out a 75 minute cd, those songs were LONG. And then it backlashed into boy bands and then rap blew up. So I don’t envy any programmer attempting to put together a classic hits or ac leaning “oldies” station without straying into the Bob trainwrecky on purpose “cherry pick every decade from the past 40 years” format.

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    • Sean Ross's avatar Sean Ross says:
      1 year ago

      Well said, Dave. Thanks! I think you can make a lot of stylistic jumps work when energy is the constant. Otherwise, as somebody who schedules music, you have to make the choice between crashing into a ballad or slowing down the station several songs at a time to make it gradual. I’d rather play Bon Jovi into Usher than Bon Jovi into Tonic.

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  2. davemasonsd's avatar davemasonsd says:
    1 year ago

    I was lucky to be on the leading edge of the “Oldies” rebirth into the 80s a decade ago. With a playlist filled with Beach Boys, Beatles and Motown, we were faced with a new crop of 80s pop hits. Sometimes it seems that the “essence” of those very successful oldies stations has been pushed to the back of the line. “In The Air Tonight” comes to mind as a total tempo killer for any station, and yet it’s usually a top 10 testing song. If I were putting together a station in 2025, after surveying the market (that’s “listening” around) I’d want to know what TYPE of station was missing from the airwaves. Soft? Relaxing? Happy? Uptempo? “Party 92.9” makes more sense than “Mix 92.9”. At least someone not hearing the station ever would know it’s a totally uptempo station. “Your place to relax”-also pinpoints what to expect, although I doubt many people have the need to “relax”. “70s, 80s, 90s” is a very positive era position, but what KIND of music? A good programmer should (in my opinion) decide what the ESSENCE (aka: Energy Level) of the station should be and make sure every song FITS that essence. In the 70s, “Evergreen (from A Star Is Born)” always shot to the top of the test list. Was it a Top 40 smash? Well, the definition of Top 40 in the 70s probably didn’t (in the listener’s mind) include Ms. Streisand. Set the essence of the station, and then fill the playlist with great testing songs that FIT.

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  3. Brandon Charles's avatar Brandon Charles says:
    1 year ago

    I love specialized formats like modern AC, and rhythmic AC. I’m a child of the 90s, I grew up on them, which is why this article sort of makes me sad because it really feels like we’re hitting a major age divide here that is irreparable. If you can only see being referred to as a ballot as a little silly to me, especially because it’s not in a way like let her cry. and how is if you can only see, really that much different than alone by heart?
    I tend to agree with Jason here, people, my age, 36, and younger, and even more 50-year-olds then you would know really want to be surprised when they turn on the radio. Not in the way where they get something they weren’t expecting, but where they can’t listen for a half an hour in predict what’s coming next. Seeing station like Bob FM trend so high in Pittsburgh is not a surprise to me at all especially because I’ve done my own in market research and talk to some people who listen to it and asked why, and these people range in different age groups. I don’t work for them, Commercial radio doesn’t really know what it wants to be nowadays but that’s not the point and it’s my entire point. Who exactly are programmers programming to anymore? Is it about having the best sounding imaging with high flying jingles and hot tempo, that’s cool, if you’re catering to people who grew up in the 80s, but maybe this is where the official divide happens and you can’t really coalesce the two. This is exactly why it sounds like an AC , without currents, it seems hard to find an agreement on things, though I agree about adding more of the rhythmic and dance pop of the 90s but seems to be overlooked in a format like classic hits.
    with all due respect, talking about how certain 90s songs, rear end older songs is kind of lazy. I hear a lot about music in an article like this, but what I don’t read about is presentation, if you do it correctly, it works. cool 105 in Denver is a great example of that. there used to be this emphasis on things called personalities, who could guide listeners in and out of sets like this, but when everything is becoming automated, of course, it sounds scattered.

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  4. Anna Ihekoronye's avatar Anna Ihekoronye says:
    1 year ago

    Sean Ross, I just couldn’t agree with you more. Ever since when I was just a little girl who lived at 1267 Thomas Avenue in Saint Paul,MN with my whole West African immigrant family in tow, I loved listening to some pretty great music on what was then Lite 103FM in the Twin Cities of Minneapolis/Saint Paul,MN and then on just a few years later I started to listen to Radio Disney AM 1440 and then 101.3 KDWB and that was the beginning of such a pretty great radio relationship. I mean, I just wish that I could name some of my all-time very favorite songs that became such a very important part of my childhood but I have got to say that one of my all-time favorite songs that became such an very popular all-time favorite classic has got to be “Southside” by MOBY featuring Gwen Stefani just because of the fact that it made me want my then-8-year-old self to dance my a** off to no end in such a pretty fun way whatsoever. And ever since that time I have been falling in love with it over and over and over again. Now I just wish that every single radio station not just in the Twin Cities but all over the country could use some pretty solid “1990’s/2000’s/today’s best hits”-centric content into the playlist roster of so many great PD’s and DJ’s everywhere all day everyday. You just better believe it, you heard me? HA HA HA!!!

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  5. Scott Bakal's avatar Scott Bakal says:
    1 year ago

    Under The Bridge was a huge multiformat smash in it’s day even crossing over to what would be considered AC or Hot AC at that time. Paparazzi is another one classic hits / adults hits is playing.

    Scott B

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  6. Steve Michaels's avatar Steve Michaels says:
    1 year ago

    Its because of columns like these is the reason many of us are disgusted with radio now. You so called program directors tend to make radio into a mathmatical equation. I operate 2 FM’s and an AM in my region. As for the playlist. If it was good 4 decades ago ( maybe older) then its good now. Perhaps that is why I have some of my competition copying me. Stop overcomplicating the damn music and just play it. Personally nothing good is being made musically these days .

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  7. NCBrian's avatar NCBrian says:
    1 year ago

    Why is this difficult? Imaginary Brian FM Categories and sample 10-song playlist.
    1. 80s
    2. 90s
    3. 00s
    4. 70s Throwbacks
    5. Classic Alternative
    6. Classic Rock
    7. Last Ten Years
    8. Power Ballads
    9. Classic AC and Yacht Rock
    10. R&B Crossover
    11. 60s Surprises

    Here’s a random 2-3pm hour.
    Cure – Just Like Heaven
    Jennifer Paige – Crush
    All-American Rejects – Dirty Little Secret
    Steve Miller Band – Fly Like An Eagle
    REM – Fall On Me
    Poison – Nothing But a Good Time
    Gotye – Someone That I Used to Know
    Ozzy Osbourne – Mama I’m Coming Home
    Michael McDonald – I Keep Forgetting
    10. Jeffrey Osbourne – You Should Be Mine (The Woo Woo Song)
    11. Box Tops – The Letter

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  8. NCBrian's avatar NCBrian says:
    1 year ago

    PS: Oops. The correct Gotye title is”Somebody That I Used to Know” and it’s 14 years old! So it’s not in any of my aforementioned categories Anyway for the category Last Ten Years, add Maroon 5 – Sugar and just throw Gotye in with the 00s. It’s close enough. :))

    Just sayin’: I’m no longer in broadcasting and the only research I did was with my ears, my memory, and Google. I am confident that anyone in the business who regularly listens to and loves music can (if motivated) create dozens of sets like the one I just posted.

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Sean Ross is a radio business researcher, programming consultant, conference speaker, and a veteran of radio trade journalism at Billboard, Radio & Records, M Street Journal, and others. For more than a decade, his weekly writings have been collected in the Ross On Radio newsletter; subscribe for free here. https://tinyurl.com/mhcnx4u

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