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The Land of Heritage Brands

Sean Rossby Sean Ross
February 10, 2020

Alt 106.7 Detroit's Wheels WLLZA few weeks ago, I retweeted a posting from Radio Rewinder, which republished the fall 1984 ratings from 10 major markets as they appeared in Radio & Records, my employer of the time.

In my tweet, I commented on the number of market-leading Easy Listening outlets, roughly five years before the format’s near-total implosion on major-market FM. I was also impressed by how fragmented San Francisco was, even then, with only three stations above a four share.

What my Edison Research president Larry Rosin took notice of was the number of radio stations in the 1984 ratings still found on the dial in some form more than 35 years later. So I counted the number of brands with some sort of continuity.

Brady Z100 WHTZ New York Power 93.3 KPWX SeattleDetermining that continuity was subjective. Most people would count KIIS Los Angeles and WHTZ (Z100) New York as CHR then and CHR now, with those mid-‘90s moments when KIIS was almost Hot AC and Z100 was essentially Alternative long forgotten. WCBS-FM New York was Oldies then, Classic Hits now — even if the name of the format and the era it covers have evolved. WJLB Detroit, WGCI Chicago, and WUSL (Power 99) all continue as R&B/Hip-Hop.

I counted those stations that had kept their brands but had evolved along the common trajectories of certain stations in certain formats — Urban to Urban AC; Full-Service AC to News/Talk; Album Rock to Classic Rock. For the same reason, I counted WLS-FM Chicago, now playing the CHR hits of 1984 as a Classic Hits station (despite many format changes and modifications in between).

I counted those brands that had been revived in a relatively similar fashion, even on another dial position; e.g., WKTU New York or KDAY Los Angeles. I counted those Classical stations that had moved frequencies and switched to non-commercial operations — WQXR New York and KDFC San Francisco (even if much of the latter’s programming emanates from outside the market). 

I wasn’t as sure what to do with WPGC Washington, D.C. In 1984, it had softened from CHR to AC; in 1987, it relaunched as R&B, but self-reported as CHR, drawing on its previous heritage. Most Washingtonians do regard WPGC as having been “hits in some form” for 60 or so years.

What about WEAZ Philadelphia, which segued first from Easy Listening to Soft AC, then switched its handle to B101, then to More-FM, then back to B101? Most Philadelphians regard that evolution as having a through line as well.

In the end, it’s safe to say that there was probably one decision per market that another radio historian might dispute. But even if your count differs by a few percentage points in either direction, there’s still a lot of format continuity:

Z100 1980s logoNew York – 46% of those stations above a 1 share in 1984 are still in the market in some form (WHTZ, WOR, WINS, WCBS, WCBS-FM, WBLS, WLTW, WKTU, WABC, WSKQ, WMCA, WQXR), and that’s not including the 2019 sale of WPLJ to religious broadcaster K-Love.

Los Angeles – 40%, including KIIS, KFI, KOST, KLOS, KNX, KRTH (K-Earth 101), KROQ, and KJLH. (I wondered about KBIG, since it was Easy Listening then and Hot AC now, plus it’s not currently not using the call letters, but most Angelenos still call it “K-BIG” and regard it as a linear evolution.)

Nassau/Suffolk – 50%, thanks to all the New York signals, plus WALK, WBAB, WBLI, WKJY (K-Joy) and others.

San Francisco – 31%, a relatively low number, but still including KGO, KCBS, KNBR, KOIT, KBLX, and KMEL (which underwent a similar evolution as WPGC).

Boston – 30%, but still including WBZ, WXKS-FM (Kiss 108), WRKO, WMJX, and WAAF.

Philadelphia – 38%, with many of the current top brands in the market — WMMR, WMGK, WDAS, WXTU — as holdovers.

Detroit – 43%, including WJR, WJLB, WWJ, WRIF, WNIC, WOMC, and a recently revived WLLZ.

San Diego – 28%, including KGB, XETRA-FM (91X), XHRM (Magic 92.5), KSON, and KYXY. I didn’t count KFMB-FM, which hasn’t exactly evolved in a straight line, although market-watchers are waiting to see what happens after its sale.

Chicago – 42%, including WGN, WGCI, WBBM, WBBM-FM, WUSN, WXRT, WOJO, and WVON. WBMX has been revived, although its current ‘90s/’00s-based Throwback Hip-Hop format doesn’t quite harken back to the R&B station it was in 1984.

Washington, D.C. – 48%, including WMAL, WKYS, WHUR, WWDC (DC101), WMZQ, WASH, and WTOP, already N/T for years, but a relatively minor force in the market at the time. Again, that number would have been higher without last year’s sale of WRQX to K-Love.

Will you view the number of heritage brands as stagnation or stability? In 2019, there were very few major format changes, and most of the biggest were prompted by K-Love purchases. In part that was because few owners wanted the financial and marketing pressure of a new launch, when it’s gotten harder to cut through a field of proliferating media choices. It’s also significant that some of the highest retention rates are in the biggest markets, where even being mid-pack can be lucrative for an established station.

Heritage stations have to contend with the weight of listeners’ memories. KGO San Francisco’s changes over the years have been so controversial that I know somebody scoffed at its inclusion on the list seven paragraphs back, and there are others like it. But most people would view WMMR Philadelphia as having carried its heritage well. And some stations, like KRTH, are in considerably better shape than they were at the time.

Heritage stations are a reminder of radio’s endurance and connection with the audience. They also represent radio’s best assets on an infinite dial that broadcasters have yet to truly exploit. The issue is whether they’ve been joined by enough exciting new brands. Those tabulations are yet to be done, but  in 2019, major format changes were minimal. Radio still resists brand extensions as well, but their value to heritage brands is documented and I’ve got Caramel Coconut Oreos in my pantry to prove it.

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  1. Mark's avatar Mark says:
    6 years ago

    With all due respect, I would say that WMAL was still holding on to bits and pieces of its full service personality format in 1984 and had not gone completely news-talk yet. And no one was 100 percent conservative talk in 1984, which was BL (before Limbaugh). In fact, most of the AM heritage stations you listed except the all-news stations would probably be considered by many today to be not what they were in 1984 for various reasons.

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    • Sean Ross's avatar Sean Ross says:
      6 years ago

      It’s a lot of fun to bat around the various examples. If I wrote this article 48 hours later, I might have not coded WMCA NYC (mainstream talk in 1984, Christian talk/teaching now) as a continuum either. Possible that I haven’t carefully enough considered AM Talk/Full-Service’s nuances over the years, but also you can treat them like Z100, which isn’t playing Prince, Springsteen any more either and just say that talk’s hits have changed too.

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  2. Steve Varholy's avatar Steve Varholy says:
    6 years ago

    I’d not include WPGC. It’s first heritage run ended with the “Classy 95” (and requisite call letter change) debacle.

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  3. markrobt's avatar markrobt says:
    6 years ago

    I think it would be also interesting to determine which major market has the least amount of carryover. I’m thinking it might be Houston, though I may be thinking that because that’s where I was active in the mid-80s. If the base of comparison is 1984, the stations that seem to have some thread of continuity to this day are:

    FM: KODA (though it was beautiful music back then), KMJQ, KRBE (albeit in a brief AC phase before going back to CHR), KILT-FM. On the non-comm part of the dial: KTSU, and I guess you could also count KPFT, but the rest of the non-comm dial is quite different now.

    AM: KCOH, KPRC, and KTRH (omitting its long run as all-news that started that year; I was part of that).

    Apologies in advance if I missed something. I have a handwritten radio log from 1985 somewhere; if I can find it, it may jog some more memories.

    While some call letters have remained the same, the formats haven’t (KKBQ, KLOL).

    I always enjoyed the energy and kind of offbeat nature of the market. I do wish I had been there when the CHRs were trying to out-synthpop each other, but I did get to make a quick visit in 1990, where it seemed that KKBQ (pre-country) and KRBE were trying to see who could put the most Depeche Mode remixes on the air.

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  4. Eric Jon Magnuson's avatar Eric Jon Magnuson says:
    6 years ago

    DC101 has stuck out for me in that–even though it’s had the same basic branding and even logo for several decades–it’s significantly changed its musical focus over the years. Even though it’s been commercial Alternative now for quite some time, I vaguely remember a period in the ’90s–likely after the demise of WCXR but also after the launch of WARW–when it seemed like its playlist was all but Classic Rock (complete with Elton John).

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    • Eric Jon Magnuson's avatar Eric Jon Magnuson says:
      6 years ago

      I was going purely from memory earlier and forgot that DC101 had a significantly different logo for roughly the first decade of this century/millennium. Still, the fact that it pretty much reverted to an older one underscores how venerable the general brand had become–despite the changes in music.

      https://logos.fandom.com/wiki/WWDC_(FM)

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The Land of Heritage Brands

Sean Rossby Sean Ross
February 10, 2020

Alt 106.7 Detroit's Wheels WLLZA few weeks ago, I retweeted a posting from Radio Rewinder, which republished the fall 1984 ratings from 10 major markets as they appeared in Radio & Records, my employer of the time.

In my tweet, I commented on the number of market-leading Easy Listening outlets, roughly five years before the format’s near-total implosion on major-market FM. I was also impressed by how fragmented San Francisco was, even then, with only three stations above a four share.

What my Edison Research president Larry Rosin took notice of was the number of radio stations in the 1984 ratings still found on the dial in some form more than 35 years later. So I counted the number of brands with some sort of continuity.

Brady Z100 WHTZ New York Power 93.3 KPWX SeattleDetermining that continuity was subjective. Most people would count KIIS Los Angeles and WHTZ (Z100) New York as CHR then and CHR now, with those mid-‘90s moments when KIIS was almost Hot AC and Z100 was essentially Alternative long forgotten. WCBS-FM New York was Oldies then, Classic Hits now — even if the name of the format and the era it covers have evolved. WJLB Detroit, WGCI Chicago, and WUSL (Power 99) all continue as R&B/Hip-Hop.

I counted those stations that had kept their brands but had evolved along the common trajectories of certain stations in certain formats — Urban to Urban AC; Full-Service AC to News/Talk; Album Rock to Classic Rock. For the same reason, I counted WLS-FM Chicago, now playing the CHR hits of 1984 as a Classic Hits station (despite many format changes and modifications in between).

I counted those brands that had been revived in a relatively similar fashion, even on another dial position; e.g., WKTU New York or KDAY Los Angeles. I counted those Classical stations that had moved frequencies and switched to non-commercial operations — WQXR New York and KDFC San Francisco (even if much of the latter’s programming emanates from outside the market). 

I wasn’t as sure what to do with WPGC Washington, D.C. In 1984, it had softened from CHR to AC; in 1987, it relaunched as R&B, but self-reported as CHR, drawing on its previous heritage. Most Washingtonians do regard WPGC as having been “hits in some form” for 60 or so years.

What about WEAZ Philadelphia, which segued first from Easy Listening to Soft AC, then switched its handle to B101, then to More-FM, then back to B101? Most Philadelphians regard that evolution as having a through line as well.

In the end, it’s safe to say that there was probably one decision per market that another radio historian might dispute. But even if your count differs by a few percentage points in either direction, there’s still a lot of format continuity:

Z100 1980s logoNew York – 46% of those stations above a 1 share in 1984 are still in the market in some form (WHTZ, WOR, WINS, WCBS, WCBS-FM, WBLS, WLTW, WKTU, WABC, WSKQ, WMCA, WQXR), and that’s not including the 2019 sale of WPLJ to religious broadcaster K-Love.

Los Angeles – 40%, including KIIS, KFI, KOST, KLOS, KNX, KRTH (K-Earth 101), KROQ, and KJLH. (I wondered about KBIG, since it was Easy Listening then and Hot AC now, plus it’s not currently not using the call letters, but most Angelenos still call it “K-BIG” and regard it as a linear evolution.)

Nassau/Suffolk – 50%, thanks to all the New York signals, plus WALK, WBAB, WBLI, WKJY (K-Joy) and others.

San Francisco – 31%, a relatively low number, but still including KGO, KCBS, KNBR, KOIT, KBLX, and KMEL (which underwent a similar evolution as WPGC).

Boston – 30%, but still including WBZ, WXKS-FM (Kiss 108), WRKO, WMJX, and WAAF.

Philadelphia – 38%, with many of the current top brands in the market — WMMR, WMGK, WDAS, WXTU — as holdovers.

Detroit – 43%, including WJR, WJLB, WWJ, WRIF, WNIC, WOMC, and a recently revived WLLZ.

San Diego – 28%, including KGB, XETRA-FM (91X), XHRM (Magic 92.5), KSON, and KYXY. I didn’t count KFMB-FM, which hasn’t exactly evolved in a straight line, although market-watchers are waiting to see what happens after its sale.

Chicago – 42%, including WGN, WGCI, WBBM, WBBM-FM, WUSN, WXRT, WOJO, and WVON. WBMX has been revived, although its current ‘90s/’00s-based Throwback Hip-Hop format doesn’t quite harken back to the R&B station it was in 1984.

Washington, D.C. – 48%, including WMAL, WKYS, WHUR, WWDC (DC101), WMZQ, WASH, and WTOP, already N/T for years, but a relatively minor force in the market at the time. Again, that number would have been higher without last year’s sale of WRQX to K-Love.

Will you view the number of heritage brands as stagnation or stability? In 2019, there were very few major format changes, and most of the biggest were prompted by K-Love purchases. In part that was because few owners wanted the financial and marketing pressure of a new launch, when it’s gotten harder to cut through a field of proliferating media choices. It’s also significant that some of the highest retention rates are in the biggest markets, where even being mid-pack can be lucrative for an established station.

Heritage stations have to contend with the weight of listeners’ memories. KGO San Francisco’s changes over the years have been so controversial that I know somebody scoffed at its inclusion on the list seven paragraphs back, and there are others like it. But most people would view WMMR Philadelphia as having carried its heritage well. And some stations, like KRTH, are in considerably better shape than they were at the time.

Heritage stations are a reminder of radio’s endurance and connection with the audience. They also represent radio’s best assets on an infinite dial that broadcasters have yet to truly exploit. The issue is whether they’ve been joined by enough exciting new brands. Those tabulations are yet to be done, but  in 2019, major format changes were minimal. Radio still resists brand extensions as well, but their value to heritage brands is documented and I’ve got Caramel Coconut Oreos in my pantry to prove it.

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  1. Mark's avatar Mark says:
    6 years ago

    With all due respect, I would say that WMAL was still holding on to bits and pieces of its full service personality format in 1984 and had not gone completely news-talk yet. And no one was 100 percent conservative talk in 1984, which was BL (before Limbaugh). In fact, most of the AM heritage stations you listed except the all-news stations would probably be considered by many today to be not what they were in 1984 for various reasons.

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    • Sean Ross's avatar Sean Ross says:
      6 years ago

      It’s a lot of fun to bat around the various examples. If I wrote this article 48 hours later, I might have not coded WMCA NYC (mainstream talk in 1984, Christian talk/teaching now) as a continuum either. Possible that I haven’t carefully enough considered AM Talk/Full-Service’s nuances over the years, but also you can treat them like Z100, which isn’t playing Prince, Springsteen any more either and just say that talk’s hits have changed too.

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  2. Steve Varholy's avatar Steve Varholy says:
    6 years ago

    I’d not include WPGC. It’s first heritage run ended with the “Classy 95” (and requisite call letter change) debacle.

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  3. markrobt's avatar markrobt says:
    6 years ago

    I think it would be also interesting to determine which major market has the least amount of carryover. I’m thinking it might be Houston, though I may be thinking that because that’s where I was active in the mid-80s. If the base of comparison is 1984, the stations that seem to have some thread of continuity to this day are:

    FM: KODA (though it was beautiful music back then), KMJQ, KRBE (albeit in a brief AC phase before going back to CHR), KILT-FM. On the non-comm part of the dial: KTSU, and I guess you could also count KPFT, but the rest of the non-comm dial is quite different now.

    AM: KCOH, KPRC, and KTRH (omitting its long run as all-news that started that year; I was part of that).

    Apologies in advance if I missed something. I have a handwritten radio log from 1985 somewhere; if I can find it, it may jog some more memories.

    While some call letters have remained the same, the formats haven’t (KKBQ, KLOL).

    I always enjoyed the energy and kind of offbeat nature of the market. I do wish I had been there when the CHRs were trying to out-synthpop each other, but I did get to make a quick visit in 1990, where it seemed that KKBQ (pre-country) and KRBE were trying to see who could put the most Depeche Mode remixes on the air.

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  4. Eric Jon Magnuson's avatar Eric Jon Magnuson says:
    6 years ago

    DC101 has stuck out for me in that–even though it’s had the same basic branding and even logo for several decades–it’s significantly changed its musical focus over the years. Even though it’s been commercial Alternative now for quite some time, I vaguely remember a period in the ’90s–likely after the demise of WCXR but also after the launch of WARW–when it seemed like its playlist was all but Classic Rock (complete with Elton John).

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    • Eric Jon Magnuson's avatar Eric Jon Magnuson says:
      6 years ago

      I was going purely from memory earlier and forgot that DC101 had a significantly different logo for roughly the first decade of this century/millennium. Still, the fact that it pretty much reverted to an older one underscores how venerable the general brand had become–despite the changes in music.

      https://logos.fandom.com/wiki/WWDC_(FM)

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