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Tales of the Infringement Whisperer

I went to see Three Dog Night. My wife says I’ll go see any heritage band that can still stand up, although in this case, we went because a friend had a connection to the opening act. But they were good. Cory Wells had passed. Chuck Negron had left the group. Fortunately, this was the band with three lead singers. Danny Hutton could still hit a lot of high notes, and they were generous about going deep in to the catalog — “Let Me Serenade You,” “Liar,” “The Family of Man,” and in particular, “Sure as I’m Sittin’ Here,” the John Hiatt song that was one of their last semi-hits.

I heard that version of “Sure as I’m Sittin’ Here” a few times in fall ‘74, and not much thereafter. Hearing it this time, something new came to me. I realized one of my favorite country records of all time — a country-only hit from several years later — had a lot in common in terms of both lyrical structure and melody with “Sure as I’m Sitting Here.” Except for the country song’s guitar solo; that was clearly influenced by a much bigger pop hit that was out at almost exactly the same time as the Three Dog Night single.

I’ve always enjoyed the moment of recognition of making the connection between songs. And it’s been happening a lot lately. Australian radio veteran Brent James sent me one of his Australian compilations CD of ’70s pop. In the course of listening to just one of its discs, with 20 songs, I had at least 3-4 new “this sounds like this” moments. Some were just songs with little similar flourishes or a line here and there. Others had a similar feel throughout. 

Some were reasonably well-known songs and maybe I just hadn’t thought about their similarities for a while — e.g., the turboed-up bluegrass of both Ray Stevens’ “Misty” that laid a base for Glen Campbell’s “Southern Nights” 15 months later. Some were songs I’d heard once or twice. Suddenly, I could hear that an early ‘70s obscurity by Ohio Express, “Cowboy Convention,” was the connection between both the Cowsills’ ’60s hit “Indian Lake” and a Euro-oddity called “Bulldozer” by Oliver Onions a few years later.

You can often confirm these connections between songs by their timing. I’ve written before about Carl Douglas, “Run Back” –a British hit exactly a year before the Bee Gees’ “Tragedy.” James’ CD had a Cliff Richard song I didn’t know, “Hey Mr. Dream Maker,” but you could tell by overall feel it was within a year of Sammy Johns’ “Chevy Van.” (In this case, it turned out that “Chevy Van” was first — by about 15 months, as it happens.) Then again, I just went back to the Cliff Richard song and this time I heard this Canadian hit from the early ‘70s. You can certainly get lost in the “this sounds like this” game.

There’s also the issue of which observations to share publicly — especially in this more litigious era, after the successful lawsuit against Robin Thicke’s “Blurred Lines” on behalf of Marvin Gaye’s “Got to Give It Up.”

I’m hesitant to tell you the country song that I think is copped from “Sure as I’m Sitting Here.” I doubt it made anybody a ton of money to begin with. I’m hesitant to create trouble for the author, who as best I know, is just another member of the entertainment middle class. Plus, there’s a 95% chance that you don’t know both songs, unless you were really following Country in the late ‘70s. (But, if you have somehow already guessed what song I’m referring to, let’s definitely be friends, and hang out, and go on family vacations together with spouses and kids.)

Over the years, I’ve shared my “this sounds like this” observations with two music-industry friends whose own copyrights were on the receiving end of seeming infringement. One pursued a claim. One shrugged it off.  People feel differently about this issue, even when it’s their own songs, and you never know who kept their publishing anyway.

Besides, I am always surprised by which similarities between songs are and are not ratified by either the clearance process or lawsuits. The referencing of one line from “Busting Loose” resulted in Chuck Brown having a writing credit on Nelly’s “Hot in Herre.” But 90 seconds of “mama-se/mama-sa/ma-ma-kossa” — the primary lyric of “Soul Makossa” — got Manu Dibango nothing from Michael Jackson.

I’ve never known whether to bring it up when I meet the artists involved. In the early ‘90s, I had a very pleasant but perfunctory meet-and-greet with a prominent Country artist I admired. I figured that this artist would not appreciate me saying, “I liked that new song you did tonight, and I can tell we are both fans of the same lesser-known Gordon Lightfoot song.” But wasn’t that supposed to be a secret handshake? Shouldn’t fans of a given artist find each other and bond over music?  

As with a recent series of articles on the various mystery songs that I hunted down over the course of many years, I’m never quite sure whether to reveal this level of geekery to the public. Will you view it as obsession? Or super-power? But enough people responded to that article to further confirm that I was not alone. And I’m not the only one. A few days ago, a radio friend e-mailed a group of several people. “Which ’70s song does 5 Seconds of Summer, ‘Youngblood,’ remind you of?” Another friend shot back “Gold” by John Stewart before I could even think about it. People out there turned “Gold” into gold.

Why am I hearing so many song connections now after all these years?  Is my sense of song recognition getting sharper as other middle-aged synapses become less reliable? To some extent, I think it’s hearing these songs in a different context now. Artists have always had inspirations, conscious and otherwise. Pop music always goes through phases. By the time you hear a second hit that is perhaps influenced by a first, there have been nine months of other songs in a sort of similar vein on the radio. Hearing songs now out of the context of that period’s hit music is to be able to focus on the details more. And as the streaming era follows the iPod age, every song in pop-music history is on the buffet table to consume.

Another realization that I’ve had is that song-to-song similarities stand out less during golden ages, or even bronze ages for pop music. The spring ’75 months surrounding “Chevy Van” were not a high point for most. And yet, the much-vaunted variety that people remember about Top 40 from that era was still in evidence. If the charts were heavy with MOR that spring (Paul Anka, Carpenters, Barry Manilow, Frankie Valli’s “My Eyes Adored You”), there was also Grand Funk and Queen; Ohio Players and B.T. Express; Linda Ronstadt and the Eagles. Horizontal variety takes the onus off of vertical similarity.

All of which puts the homogeneity of today’s pop music into perspective. Daring to suggest that “everything sounds the same” is prime evidence of losing the groove and one’s relevance in the music industry. I feel a little freer to criticize the current hits since there’s safety in numbers. Suggesting that there’s a lot of 85-bpm EDM trap pop with chopped-up vocal samples is not merely my observation now, and the ratings of Top 40 radio prove that the kids don’t necessarily get it.

And now maybe it’s time to consider this contrarian explanation. Perhaps the ability to hear similarities between songs is not a matter of losing discernment but gaining it with time and seasoning. People judge the music they hear in high school through a gauzier filter; if you’re class of ’75, you almost certainly remember “Chevy Van” with a more genuine appreciation than anybody else. When it’s music of your golden age, you enjoy hits, good and bad, and you enjoy the hits that sound like other hits. With time, you judge music with more sophistication, and that applies to being able to see similarities as well.

5 Comments
  1. jason steiner says


    This has been happening to me a lot too. The one I most recently noticed is the intro of the Bells “Stay Awhile” (A song I played at an AC gold station in the mid 80s and have loved ever since) sounds nearly identical to Mercy “Love Can Make You Happy”.

  2. jason steiner says


    Speaking of country songs that sound like older pop songs. LANco-Born To Love you has an instrumental part that sounds just like the Psychadelic Furs-Love My Way. This is so obvious it had to be by design. I get a kick out of that. Much of today’s country has an 80s rock influence but it’s usually an all-American sound like John Mellencamp…you would never expect country to copy elements from a British new wave song.

    I might be the only one who hears this but Thomas Rhett-Crash And Burn sounds a lot like Ginuwine-Pony to me…especially the chorus.

  3. trivialtony says


    And please tell me Pirate Flag by Kenny Chesney doesn’t sound just a LITTLE like Mary Jane’s Last Dance by Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers.

  4. chrisbubb says


    Much has been made of Lady Gaga’s “Born This Way” sharing its musical (same) DNA with Madonna’s “Express Yourself” which in turn shares much of its musical DNA with The Staple Singers’ “Respect Yourself” (which was a hit for Bruce Willis and the Pointer Sisters about two years before Madonna’s hit… coincidence?). But Madonna was reductive way before 1989. Listen to “Papa Don’t Preach” and then listen to “Sugar Don’t Bite,” a #36 hit for Sam Harris in 1984. I believe the writer of “Sugar Don’t Bite” actually sued Madonna and Brian Elliot for plagiarism and lost.

  5. dankelley98 says


    Hey Sean….not sure this is the one you’re referring to, but I always thought The Judd’s “Why Not Me” resembled
    Gordon Lightfoot’s “Sundown.”

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