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What’s Really Next For Nash?

Lance Ventaby Lance Venta
October 12, 2015

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Nash FM Icon Cumulus Country Radio America's Morning Show Lew John DickeyAs new Cumulus CEO Mary Berner officially starts on the job tomorrow, one of the biggest questions on the minds of many in the industry is what is really up with the NASH division that was the primary focus of Lew & John Dickey over the past couple of years.

After a Tom Taylor report last week that the Nash initiative was to “lose prominence” under Berner, Cumulus quickly came out with anonymous denials to other publications while Senior Vice President of Content & Programming Mike McVay took to Twitter to comment:

Someone asked me today "Is Cumulus committed to NASH." The answer isn't just yes. It's HELL YES.

— Mike McVay (@MikeMcVay) October 8, 2015

That was followed by press releases late Friday about the “massive” online engagement the Nash Next online talent contest was receiving and Sean Parr’s “Nash Nights Live” crossing the 100 affiliate mark. The Nash Next release touted 57,00 online registrations, 241 million impressions the last three months on social media, at least 6 page views per visit, and 47% of traffic being first-time users. Of course numbers like that can also be construed to say that people are visiting once and never returning, but at least the project is getting some attention. Getting back to the topic at hand, though let’s look at what’s really been going on with the primary Nash brand.

The last station to be rebranded as “Nash-FM” by Cumulus was nearly a year ago. Many of Cumulus’ strongest Country stations such as KSCS Dallas and WKHX Atlanta continue to operate without the NASH branding in place. Growth since then has been mainly with the “Nash Icon” brand, but even that has mostly been with non-Cumulus owned affiliates via Westwood One. The record label partnership with Big Machine continues to show growth, but nearly every other initiative associated with the Nash brand has gone unnoticed by the general public. A press release about promotions within Cumulus’ Country programming hierarchy made following the Dickey firings failed to mention “Nash” even once.

Then why did Cumulus quickly strike to shut down the rumors regarding NASH? What choice do they really have? The company isn’t going to spend money to rebrand or flip all of the stations they converted to Nash over the past couple of years or hire local talent to replace those based at the Nash Campus in Nashville. A move like that would negatively affect the company’s already damaged stock. Growth within the Nash radio brand has already trickled to a stop so coming out and saying that the company is committed to it is like saying the sun will rise in the east tomorrow morning. Keeping status quo is commitment. And if Berner and McVay do make adjustments to repair the flaws in the programming in most markets then there are revenue gains to be made.

If Cumulus was fully committed to NASH they would finish converting the remainder of their Country stations to the branding, launch a massive marketing campaign outside of the print and online properties they’ve launched inside the brand, and figure out how to make America’s Morning Show a must-listen to program for Country fans within Cumulus markets and online for those outside. The half-formed concept that the company has run for the past two years has not succeed and will continue to remain that way.

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Lance Venta is the founder and publisher of RadioInsight.com. Lance has been covering the radio industry since founding the first radio industry discussion forums in the mid 1990s. He also advises and builds content strategies and web platforms for stations and programs across America.

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  1. Nathan Obral's avatar Nathan Obral says:
    11 years ago

    Mike McVay has been a radio programmer and consultant for decades. I’m pretty sure he would know the ramifications of keeping silent on “NASH FM” or saying that it is a goner. Either way, anything he said would and could be construed as the classic “vote of confidence” that is infamously delivered just before a mass firing takes place… so he is in a no-win scenario here.

    The truth always lies somewhere in the middle. We’ll see next year if Cumulus will have another “NASH Next” competition, if WNSH makes any sort of alterations in an attempt to be relevant in the NYC market (outside of dropping “America’s Morning Show” and “NASH Nights Live,” which, while the obvious fix for WNSH, would be highly doubtful due to Cumulus’ moribund status), and the future of John and Lew’s multiple non-radio related projects tied to the initiative. Goodbye, NASH house paint.

    The overall verdict on NASH is that Lew and John simply bit off more than they could chew.

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  2. ksradiogeek's avatar ksradiogeek says:
    11 years ago

    Mike McVay has also deceived us before. For example, he lied about 99X returning to Atlanta after it got killed off the second time. Other than the un-affiliated Cox station, it hasn’t happened.

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  3. saltydog's avatar saltydog says:
    11 years ago

    I take this as seriously as I did when the new owners told our station employees no changes were planned.

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  4. Chris Lash's avatar Chris Lash says:
    11 years ago

    I spent the morning researching all the 34 NASH FM stations ratings. Here are some of the results.

    7 up books. 23 down books. 4 stayed the same includng NYC.

    5 local morning shows, 29 are America’s Morning Show.

    Off the 34 Nash FM stations, only 4 had up books carrying the America’s Morning Show

    And two others had up books with local morning shows. The other carried Big D and Bubba

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  5. Joseph_Gallant's avatar Joseph_Gallant says:
    11 years ago

    Lance commented on how Cumulus hopes to “make ‘America’s Morning Show’ a must-listen for country fans within Cumulus markets and online for those outside”.

    Isn’t that show available via syndication to country-music stations in cities where Cumulus doesn’t own a country-music station??

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    • Nathan Obral's avatar Nathan Obral says:
      11 years ago

      Yes. And the only non-Cumulus station that has bothered to pick up “America’s Morning Show” is the recently rebooted WKTI in Eastern Maryland.

      Plus, in spite of the recent hoopla surrounding “Nash Nights Live” reaching its 100th clearance, the vast majority of those clearances were Cumulus country stations by mandate. That show’s growth has been almost entirely artificial.

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  6. Chris Lash's avatar Chris Lash says:
    11 years ago

    The only other station that I know of, non Cumulus, that added AMS is The Wolf in Orlando.

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  7. Chris Lash's avatar Chris Lash says:
    11 years ago

    I thought Jerry Del Colliano’s one liner this morning summed up Nash. “How She Said NASH was off-limits” but really? It does suck!

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What’s Really Next For Nash?

Lance Ventaby Lance Venta
October 12, 2015

Lance's Line RadioInsight Blog

Nash FM Icon Cumulus Country Radio America's Morning Show Lew John DickeyAs new Cumulus CEO Mary Berner officially starts on the job tomorrow, one of the biggest questions on the minds of many in the industry is what is really up with the NASH division that was the primary focus of Lew & John Dickey over the past couple of years.

After a Tom Taylor report last week that the Nash initiative was to “lose prominence” under Berner, Cumulus quickly came out with anonymous denials to other publications while Senior Vice President of Content & Programming Mike McVay took to Twitter to comment:

Someone asked me today "Is Cumulus committed to NASH." The answer isn't just yes. It's HELL YES.

— Mike McVay (@MikeMcVay) October 8, 2015

That was followed by press releases late Friday about the “massive” online engagement the Nash Next online talent contest was receiving and Sean Parr’s “Nash Nights Live” crossing the 100 affiliate mark. The Nash Next release touted 57,00 online registrations, 241 million impressions the last three months on social media, at least 6 page views per visit, and 47% of traffic being first-time users. Of course numbers like that can also be construed to say that people are visiting once and never returning, but at least the project is getting some attention. Getting back to the topic at hand, though let’s look at what’s really been going on with the primary Nash brand.

The last station to be rebranded as “Nash-FM” by Cumulus was nearly a year ago. Many of Cumulus’ strongest Country stations such as KSCS Dallas and WKHX Atlanta continue to operate without the NASH branding in place. Growth since then has been mainly with the “Nash Icon” brand, but even that has mostly been with non-Cumulus owned affiliates via Westwood One. The record label partnership with Big Machine continues to show growth, but nearly every other initiative associated with the Nash brand has gone unnoticed by the general public. A press release about promotions within Cumulus’ Country programming hierarchy made following the Dickey firings failed to mention “Nash” even once.

Then why did Cumulus quickly strike to shut down the rumors regarding NASH? What choice do they really have? The company isn’t going to spend money to rebrand or flip all of the stations they converted to Nash over the past couple of years or hire local talent to replace those based at the Nash Campus in Nashville. A move like that would negatively affect the company’s already damaged stock. Growth within the Nash radio brand has already trickled to a stop so coming out and saying that the company is committed to it is like saying the sun will rise in the east tomorrow morning. Keeping status quo is commitment. And if Berner and McVay do make adjustments to repair the flaws in the programming in most markets then there are revenue gains to be made.

If Cumulus was fully committed to NASH they would finish converting the remainder of their Country stations to the branding, launch a massive marketing campaign outside of the print and online properties they’ve launched inside the brand, and figure out how to make America’s Morning Show a must-listen to program for Country fans within Cumulus markets and online for those outside. The half-formed concept that the company has run for the past two years has not succeed and will continue to remain that way.

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  1. Nathan Obral's avatar Nathan Obral says:
    11 years ago

    Mike McVay has been a radio programmer and consultant for decades. I’m pretty sure he would know the ramifications of keeping silent on “NASH FM” or saying that it is a goner. Either way, anything he said would and could be construed as the classic “vote of confidence” that is infamously delivered just before a mass firing takes place… so he is in a no-win scenario here.

    The truth always lies somewhere in the middle. We’ll see next year if Cumulus will have another “NASH Next” competition, if WNSH makes any sort of alterations in an attempt to be relevant in the NYC market (outside of dropping “America’s Morning Show” and “NASH Nights Live,” which, while the obvious fix for WNSH, would be highly doubtful due to Cumulus’ moribund status), and the future of John and Lew’s multiple non-radio related projects tied to the initiative. Goodbye, NASH house paint.

    The overall verdict on NASH is that Lew and John simply bit off more than they could chew.

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  2. ksradiogeek's avatar ksradiogeek says:
    11 years ago

    Mike McVay has also deceived us before. For example, he lied about 99X returning to Atlanta after it got killed off the second time. Other than the un-affiliated Cox station, it hasn’t happened.

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  3. saltydog's avatar saltydog says:
    11 years ago

    I take this as seriously as I did when the new owners told our station employees no changes were planned.

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  4. Chris Lash's avatar Chris Lash says:
    11 years ago

    I spent the morning researching all the 34 NASH FM stations ratings. Here are some of the results.

    7 up books. 23 down books. 4 stayed the same includng NYC.

    5 local morning shows, 29 are America’s Morning Show.

    Off the 34 Nash FM stations, only 4 had up books carrying the America’s Morning Show

    And two others had up books with local morning shows. The other carried Big D and Bubba

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  5. Joseph_Gallant's avatar Joseph_Gallant says:
    11 years ago

    Lance commented on how Cumulus hopes to “make ‘America’s Morning Show’ a must-listen for country fans within Cumulus markets and online for those outside”.

    Isn’t that show available via syndication to country-music stations in cities where Cumulus doesn’t own a country-music station??

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    • Nathan Obral's avatar Nathan Obral says:
      11 years ago

      Yes. And the only non-Cumulus station that has bothered to pick up “America’s Morning Show” is the recently rebooted WKTI in Eastern Maryland.

      Plus, in spite of the recent hoopla surrounding “Nash Nights Live” reaching its 100th clearance, the vast majority of those clearances were Cumulus country stations by mandate. That show’s growth has been almost entirely artificial.

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  6. Chris Lash's avatar Chris Lash says:
    11 years ago

    The only other station that I know of, non Cumulus, that added AMS is The Wolf in Orlando.

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  7. Chris Lash's avatar Chris Lash says:
    11 years ago

    I thought Jerry Del Colliano’s one liner this morning summed up Nash. “How She Said NASH was off-limits” but really? It does suck!

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